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Saturday, February 09, 2013

Jesus Would Pop A Cap In Yo Ass

Just saw a bumpersticker on FB: DO YOU HONESTLY THINK JESUS WOULD OWN A GUN AND BE A REPUBLICAN?

Um...duh, yes some people do.  Bryan Fischer, for examples, likes to cite Luke 22:36-37:

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

Sayeth Fischer:

“This whole concept of using a weapon for self-defense is rooted in the teaching of Christ. There was a time, the night he was betrayed, he told his disciples, ‘look, I’m going to be numbered with the transgressors, you’re identified with me so you’re going to numbered with the transgressors, you are going to be thought of as a criminal, there may be a time when you have to defend yourself with lethal force,” he said, referring to Luke 22.

“Jesus Christ said this to his own disciples, ‘my recommendation to you is if you don’t have a weapon of lethal force that you can use in self-defense, sell your cloak and go buy one,’” Fischer added. “Now, it wasn’t an offensive weapon. Jesus wasn’t telling them to get this weapon so you can go rip off the Nazareth 7-11 or so you can go to war in my name. This is for self-protection. So our Second Amendment is rooted in the teachings of Jesus Christ.”

A careful reader, however, will notice the 'but' that Jesus used.  That means this was a follow-up to something else.  If you skip back a couple verses:

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

So he's contrasting his old ministry (before entering Jerusalem) and the time that is nigh: prophecy says Big Man's gonna be arrested as a common criminal.  And:

38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.

Now a parallel translation makes his last statement less emphatic, perhaps merely indicating that two swords will be enough for God's will to be fulfilled, rather than an admonishment of his disciples.  Either way, they don't need an arsenal, just a couple of swords so they look like a criminal conspiracy with Jesus in charge.  And the swords are clearly not meant to be used:

49 When Jesus’ followers saw what was going to happen, they said, “Lord, should we strike with our swords?” 50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.

51 But Jesus answered, “No more of this!” And he touched the man’s ear and healed him.

And Jesus allowed himself to be taken away without a fight.  Does that sound like a gun/sword nut to you?  Yet sometimes I also see gun thumpers quote Matthew:

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

See, Jesus was a bad ass motherfucker ready to misquote Ezekial at you!  But again, if you read a little further:

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

The sword is obviously metaphorical in the context, representing a spiritual cleaving of society between those who follow the old Law and those who accept Jesus' new Covenant.  Luke says pretty much the same thing, but apparently forgets something:

51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

So no, Jesus wouldn't own a gun, though he admittedly might not mind that some of his followers have one (and not use them since almost all of his apostles were martyred without violent resistance on their part).  But you have to really go out of your way to skip the parts that clarify what he was saying to suggest anything more than that.  Kinda like how these folks read the Constitution...

ntodd

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Fisher is misquoting Luke 22. Further, Luke 22 goes on to say "49 When Jesus’ followers saw what was going to happen, they said, “Lord, should we strike with our swords?” 50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.

51 But Jesus answered, “No more of this!” And he touched the man’s ear and healed him."

Posted by: Jim George | Feb 10, 2013 1:19:22 PM

Fischer's misquote is in saying "you’re identified with me so you’re going to numbered with the transgressors, you are going to be thought of as a criminal, there may be a time when you have to defend yourself with lethal force" Never does Jesus imply they should defend themselves with lethal force. Peter, Paul and other followers were frequently set-upon, arrested, and sent to jail. They never used lethal force.

"No more of this" is a good message to listen to today.

Posted by: Jim George | Feb 10, 2013 2:50:51 PM

Amen.

Posted by: NTodd Pritsky | Feb 11, 2013 2:45:54 PM

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