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Thursday, June 26, 2008
Oddly, I Agree...
The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Americans have a constitutional right to keep guns in their homes for self-defense, the justices' first major pronouncement on gun control in U.S. history.
The court's 5-4 ruling struck down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns as incompatible with gun rights under the Second Amendment. The decision went further than even the Bush administration wanted, but probably leaves most firearms restrictions intact.
The court had not conclusively interpreted the Second Amendment since its ratification in 1791. The amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
The basic issue for the justices was whether the amendment protects an individual's right to own guns no matter what, or whether that right is somehow tied to service in a state militia.
Writing for the majority, Justice Antonin Scalia said that an individual right to bear arms is supported by "the historical narrative" both before and after the Second Amendment was adopted.
The Constitution does not permit "the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home," Scalia said. The court also struck down Washington's requirement that firearms be equipped with trigger locks or kept disassembled, but left intact the licensing of guns.
I have often said that if people want to make it clear that weapon ownership is only tied to militia service, then Amendment II needs amending.
As I see it, guns are an individual right based on the amendment's admittedly unclear/ambiguous/opaque wording, historical context, and considering that no amendment other than XVIII has ever offered a prohibition or even limit to individual rights. If you think the Constitution offers a protection of, say...privacy, or the right for a woman to control her own body based on IX and X and penumbra and whatnot, then you must admit that unless explicitly stated, there is no preventing individuals from owning firearms Constitutionally.
That said, certainly there are always limits on rights in a free society. We cannot, for example, libel people under the guise of free speech, or yell 'theater!' in a crowded fire. Similarly, the government does have powers--indeed responsibilities--to balance those rights with others when they come into conflict. So requiring licensing isn't necessarily an onerous burden on the individual's right to bear arms. I would think probably requiring trigger locks wouldn't be, either, but whatever.
ntodd
[Update: speaking of narrow interpretations, here's something I wrote during a debate on extending the assault gun ban:
[W]e are not debating gun ownership. We are debating assault weapon ownership, and once again the Senate has followed the will of the majority of Americans in imposing a reasonable restriction for the good of society.
Different context, but to people who say the SCOTUS has given us the right to own rocket launchers, tanks, or nukes: no, today's ruling was about handguns. Going back to Marbury, which involved a very specific and narrow ruling, today is the same. The Court does not paint with a broad brush.]
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I don't think this is dealing with the right interpretation, though. Historically, the Second Amendment was always interpreted as protecting the right of the militia to bear arms and that it was neutral as to individual ownership. I'm not sure that anyone seriously suggested that it said only the militia could bear arms, but that the Amendment itself only protected that particular right. The right to individually bear arms wasn't addressed by the Amendment. At least that was the interpretation the court had always put forth in rulings. Until now.
Posted by: Kenneth Quinnell | Jun 26, 2008 2:07:44 PM
Every male South Carolinian is a member of the South Carolina Unorganized Militia.
Kind of hard to then define militia service in the legal sense without tackling much broader issues. Particularly the Congressional role in regulating those state militias in Article I, Section 8. Maybe they should have looked at it from that perspective. Courts usually try to limit the impact of cases such as this. I think it is a well reasoned opinion. Whether I would have reached a different decision is moot.
Posted by: Snow | Jun 26, 2008 2:17:07 PM
Kenneth - the Court has never ruled on the individual right aspect until now. And while many people have interpreted II as being tied to the militia, the clause "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" does lead some folks to believe that the stray comma might be an "and". Anyway, without a prohibition of individual gun rights, I don't see how laws can be overly restrictive.
Posted by: NTodd | Jun 26, 2008 3:08:08 PM
Except, I want a rocket launcher!
Posted by: 99 | Jun 26, 2008 7:02:31 PM
#1: 99, Sure you can have a rocket launcher! The rockets it launches, on the other hand...
The yahoos who equate hand grenades, flame throwers, nuclear weapons with pistols and rifles (you know, the anti-guns for everyone crowd) really don't like to hear that the reason the above do not fall into the "personal defense" catagory is that they cannot be aimed at a single target. I.E., a hand grenade cannot take out a specific individual in a crowd, for example, and not also kill other, innocent, people.
They are, for intents and purposes, weapons of not so mass but still too many people in one go weapons.
#2: What is an "assult rifle"? Certainly not the Ruger Mini-14, what with it's classic walnut stock. See http://guncentral.net/Pictures/Rifles/RugerMini14.JPG for a pretty good picture of the Ruger.
It is not classed as an "assult rifle" anywhere in the US as far as I know, not even here in Massachusetts.
Of course once you take off the wooden stock and replace it with a Scary Black Plastic Stock with the EVIL pistol grip and collapsing shoulder stock and some more Scary Black Plastic for the forearm and maybe a Scary Black telescopic sight and a flash arrester on the muzzle and maybe even a bayonet locking lug, NOW, it's an "assault rifle"!!!1eventyone!!
http://www.tacord.com/images/pimped_mini14_2.jpg
Ballistically, nothing has changed. It fires one round with each squeeze of the trigger, and only one round. The bullet leave the muzzle with the same velocity and trajectory from the rifle with the Scary Black Plastic stock as from the walnut stock.
It's not an "assault rifle" as it does not have a full automatic, 'machine gun' selector option.
So, enough geekery on my part.
I've always liked Howard Dean's take on firearms regulation. It is a matter for the states and in some instances, the cities, to concern themselves with, not a Federal one size fits all law.
The California cities of L.A., San Francisco and Oakland have vastly different sets of circumstances, than does the California town of Needles, for example.
From an amateur Constitutionalist Scholar point of view, everywhere else in the Constitution, "the people" is a collective term, for everyone. "The Right of the People to peaceably assemble..." for example.
So why isn't "The right of the people to keep and bear arms..." also a collective right, just like in that Amendment right above it?
Ah, well. Better minds than ours (and certainly far worse minds than ours) have and will argue over this one forever.
Posted by: Chris Tucker | Jun 27, 2008 11:53:51 AM
I've always liked Howard Dean's take on firearms regulation. It is a matter for the states and in some instances, the cities, to concern themselves with, not a Federal one size fits all law.
That's pretty much Obama's tack, too. And I think a good one.
Posted by: NTodd | Jun 27, 2008 1:32:31 PM
The ruling was a surprise. Up to now the feds were perfectly happy to leave to the states the microparsing of which options define an "assault rifle" or whether "cop killer" bullets are anything special to body armor, or who should be allowed to carry what and under what circumstances. Now that the federal government is a player expect some awkward backtracking to try to put this genie back in the bottle.
Posted by: parsec | Jun 28, 2008 9:01:52 AM
NTodd--
I, like you, am a pretty serious pacifist, and I, like you, agree with this decision for the same reasons. I've been taking a bit of heat about my agreement with it, but, I keep saying that the nature of the 2nd Amendment is pretty unambiguous, and the definition of "militia" back then expressly included ALL Americans, not a select few who were "organized" to defend against local or regional threats, and government tyranny.
These days, we've got this highly structured Constabulary/National Guard structure that, unless one is absolutely physically fit, one cannot be a part of. We also have a collection of organized Militias, which are made up of seriously right-wing radical freaks.
The idea that our role as Citizens is to simply pay taxes, don't break the Law, and submit to that structure-- or otherwise stay out of their way-- seems deeply un-American to me.
I feel greatly relieved sharing the same opinion on this decision with you.
A caveat to my personal position:
A few years ago, I decided to exercise all of my Constitutional Rights which do not involve incarceration, and so, I bought my first gun. It coincided with the lifting of "Assault weapons," and so my first gun was an AK-47. I did it because it was Legal to do, and because, as a piece of machinery, it is peerless in it's durability and reliability. Since then, my purchases have been, shall we say, much more simple and practical. I still have a healthy level of fear and respect for any loaded gun that might have in my hands for target shooting or food-hunting purposes.
I'm not to be confused with the gun nuts, whom even I recoil from.
--mf
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