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Monday, July 16, 2007

And Fuck Russ Feingold

The Nutroots' Hero:

I believe that the President and Vice President may well have committed impeachable offenses.  But with so many important issues facing this country and so much work to be done, I am concerned about the great deal of time multiple impeachment trials would take away from the Congress working on the problems of the country.  The time it would take for the House to consider articles of impeachment, and for the Senate to conduct multiple trials, would make it very difficult, if not impossible, for Congress to do what it was elected to do – end the war and address some of the other terrible mistakes this Administration has made over the past six and a half years. 

While some have pointed to Republicans’ decision to impeach President Clinton, I am also concerned about the over-use of impeachment.  And I am conscious of the fact that I would have a specific role to play as a sworn, impartial juror should an impeachment be tried in the Senate.  If charges come to the Senate, I will approach them and the trial with the same seriousness that I had when I participated in the Clinton impeachment trial.  I would not prejudge the case one way or the other should it come to this.
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[I]t is the role of the House to impeach, and it is the role of the Senate to try impeachments. But the Constitution left it up to the judgment of members of Congress whether or not moving forward with impeachment is best for the country. 

Dude, you can spare us the civics lesson.  We know who is responsible for impeachment, which is why I find it odd that you'll muse about it yet say it's not your job to deal with it right now.

Further, your job IS to do a lot of hard work which can and really should include trying impeachment.  It's something that will help end the war and address the other terrible mistakes (read: crimes) that Bushco has foist upon us.  To wring your hands about "over-use of impeachment" is ridiculous: we've had 2 impeachments of presidents ever, while the last one was frivolous and thus doesn't mean that a legitimate use of the Constitutional tool would be "over-use," but rather, you know, legitimate.

If you believe there are impeachable offenses, then speak out for impeachment and work with the Speaker to begin the process.  We don't avoid prosecution of major crimes just because they would be inconvenient.  That's not how the rule of law works, you dumb bastard.

And while you have the luxury of playing the part of The Progressive Voice of Reason, people are dying as the crimes continue.  Trials over blowjobs are distractions--trials over wars, which are truly existential threats, are necessary.  If you don't want to get your hands dirty and do the work, mayhaps the people will find someone else to take your job.

I've often said I don't expect people, politicians least of all, to be saints.  But jesus fucking tits, I'd expect some of the smarter ones to not talk like complete gits.

ntodd

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Right on.

If he believes there are impeachable offenses and does nothing, he's culpable as an accessory after the fact, in essence. As is the rest of Congress.

As much as I've admired Sen. Feingold over the years, I really thought he was smarter than this.

Posted by: Sinfonian | Jul 16, 2007 5:23:52 PM

You should email this to Feingold if you haven't already. Really.

Posted by: mer | Jul 16, 2007 5:27:09 PM

I truly have a fear that Bush will bomb Iran with nukes. He's been itching to use them since he took office.

Then, Russ, we'll be waiting for your, "But nobody could have foreseen that he'd do that!"

Posted by: sister of ye | Jul 16, 2007 5:44:17 PM

MOST disappointing. Feingold has been the voice of reason on so many issues over the years, I cannot fathom why he does not understand the duty... yes, I believe it is a duty under these circumstances... of Congress to impeach and convict the serial criminals in our highest offices. If Bush's and Cheney's undeniable overreach is not what our nation's founders had in mind when they contrived impeachment, then what DOES warrant impeachment?

Posted by: Steve Bates | Jul 16, 2007 6:24:38 PM

Bravo, sir.

Sorry, that's all I can muster at the moment. Jetlag.

Posted by: watertiger | Jul 16, 2007 7:52:30 PM

EXCELLENT post, NTodd. I was disheartened, to say the least, to read this today, and you expressed my feelings quite well.

Perhaps it is all that displaced energy from spending time watching Hermione? Perhaps.

Posted by: zoe | Jul 16, 2007 8:55:50 PM

I believe that the President and Vice President may well have committed impeachable offenses.

and

I am also concerned about the over-use of impeachment.

How does one reconcile these two sentences?

When does one use impeachment -- without "overusing" it -- if it's not when the President may well have committed impeachable offenses? It doesn't make any damn sense at all.

This is more "keeping our powder dry" bullshit. Dems are just flat out afraid to go to the mat. It's gotten pathetic.

Posted by: flory | Jul 16, 2007 9:10:03 PM

here, here flory

Posted by: zoe | Jul 16, 2007 9:28:23 PM

what I meant to say:

Hear! Hear! Flory!

Posted by: zoe | Jul 16, 2007 9:31:33 PM

After Clinton's impeachment, Bush thought he could get away with murder. So far, he has. And the really ironic point; the American people in the majority did not want Clinton impeached. His "crime" was not high enough. Now the American people, the majority, are begging our leaders to do the right thing and impeach the bastard, for so many high crimes it makes your head spin and we get Nothing!

Posted by: Nancy | Jul 16, 2007 10:08:50 PM

Multitask, you lazy fucker.

Posted by: K. Ron Silkwood | Jul 17, 2007 12:48:36 AM

What Nancy said above.

I like the logic and reasoning by Bill Moyers' two guests last Friday about why impeachment is necessary.

If no one holds these lawbreakers to account, we're on a slippery slope to places we do.not.want.to.go.

Posted by: Sandy-LA 90034 | Jul 17, 2007 1:24:02 AM

F*ckgold needs to grow a sac.

Posted by: myrna frap | Jul 17, 2007 11:20:37 AM

While some have pointed to Republicans’ decision to impeach President Clinton, I am also concerned about the over-use of impeachment.

which, of course, was one of the calculated strategies of the clinton impeachment - to make the process seem frivolous and distasteful.

sorry, feingold, but you are there to do the people's work. so do it.

Posted by: dirk gently | Jul 17, 2007 12:45:41 PM

Here's the problem.

Do you have twenty Republican Senators in your back pocket? No?

If not, then forget about impeaching and removing Bush.

By the way, you'll never get twenty Republican Senators to impeach Bush. The main reason the GOP Senate caucus is as conservative as it is today is because all of the moderate pro-Nixon-impeaching Republicans were sent packing over a number of years as punishment. Weicker was among the last to go in 1988, and the national Republicans wanted him gone so badly that they backed Lieberman to do it; William F. Buckley all but turned the National Review into Lieberman's precinct HQ.

If you wanna use impeachment as a way of "heightening the contradictions" between the parties, to use a Leninism, that's one thing. Some folks are against this as they figure that a failed impeachment is worse than no impeachment at all. They think that it would empower Bush much as surviving impeachment empowered Clinton. (This is probably Feingold's actual POV.) I disagree, and think that even an "unsuccessful" impeachment process is good for us. Just don't plan on it to actually remove Bush before January of 2009.

Posted by: Chatty Kathy | Jul 17, 2007 2:46:22 PM

"Just don't plan on it to actually remove Bush before January of 2009." Chatty Kathy

Let's pray that they actually and willingly leave the White House intact and debugged. All that fake shit they claimed Clinton did reflects what they'd love to do, especially if the next president is a Democrat.

But this assumes we don't have another convenient 'Pearl Harbor' moment that allows Bush and Cheney to activate their dictatorial powers they've been setting up....

Posted by: ellroon | Jul 17, 2007 3:14:08 PM

No wonder Congress polls worse than Bush... Like Chatty Kathy said, don't expect to win, but DO expect to show the American people the difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. Standing up for the constitution is NOT a losing position to take.

Further, I'd be willing to bet we'd come close on impeaching Dick Cheney.

Posted by: DanF | Jul 17, 2007 4:20:00 PM

I disagree, and think that even an "unsuccessful" impeachment process is good for us.

i agree, except even an impeachment that doesn't result in removal can still be "successful," because the process itself is important. especially with an administration as secretive as this one, impeachment is a way to get the truth out to the public (as i opined here and was discussed in the bill moyers piece [also ref'd in my post])

Posted by: dirk gently | Jul 18, 2007 9:34:20 AM

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