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Friday, February 25, 2005
Peas In A Pod
The other day I snarked about Russian President Putin telling Bush that he was the pot calling the kettle black, using the Russian idiomatic phrase. I also mused about what the idiom is for "two peas in a pod", so I wrote my friend Dima in St. Petersburg, Russia. He replies:
didn't see much of bush/putin's summit on television but it also seemed to me they are very much alike - at least they both want us think this way. have not heard about this "like two peas in a pod" idiom before but in russian we have something similar which is "odnogo polya yagody" (berries fm the same field)1.
In Cyrillic, it's одного поля ягоды. Uh...let's dust off my Russian synapses here. I think literally that's "from one field, berries". Odnogo2 is the genitive form of the adjective "one", polya is the genitive singular of "field" and yagody is the nominative plural of "berry".
Now let's use the phrase in real life. Here's the chief of Russia's security police, Nikolai Patrushev, speaking to Putin in 2003:
"Volodya, Bush likes strong, law-and-order leaders who shoot from the hip. Besides, ever since Sept. 11, the Texas cowboy has cut corners on human rights in his own country in the name of fighting terrorism. Who is he to criticize you? You and Bush are two 'berries from the same field.' "
ntodd
1 - yes, damn it, his English is infinitely better than my Russian these days. It wasn't that way when we were in college. It's not really fair because he has a job that requires him to speak English in the international business arena. Not much call for Russian in mine.
2 - actually pronounced odnovo. Normally Russian words are said exactly as they are spelled, but this is one of the language's quirks.
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Thought you might like this site: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/
Interesting Russian photographer--
Posted by: Rexroths Daughter | Feb 25, 2005 10:08:35 AM
NTodd, I'm just impressed you can get Cyrillic up on the web. And the only Russian I remember from a little mini-course I took in sixth grade is about six words: yes, no, please, thank you, and the like. So you're one up on me in that respect.
Posted by: Musing Michael | Feb 25, 2005 11:31:51 AM
One of the Russian phrases I remember (and please remember is very roughly translated) is:
Kagda sveenya letayoot
or
"when pigs fly"
Posted by: Darryl Pearce | Feb 25, 2005 11:44:46 AM
My two years of the language in HS were too long ago. All I remember are the standard ALM phrases.
Posted by: Linkmeister | Feb 25, 2005 1:23:13 PM
Musing, that's more than I ever learned in secondary school - my Russian amounts to "taxi rank", and my Cyrillic is a bit squiffy too (tho' I did manage to work out something of the Russian lettering on a subway advisory poster. There were also versions in Chinese, Korean, and of course Spanish. Only in NY?)
Posted by: TheaLogie | Feb 25, 2005 1:57:24 PM
Rex - thanks for the link! That's wicked cool.
Posted by: NTodd | Feb 25, 2005 3:38:44 PM
The only Russian I know is "Konstatin Stanislavski."
Posted by: Mustang Bobby | Feb 25, 2005 4:07:10 PM
Glad you liked the link. The photos on that site are just stunning. Hard to imagine that some of them are nearly one hundred years old.
BTW-- Love this site and your photography. We do a little photography on our site as well.
Posted by: Rexroths Daughter | Feb 25, 2005 4:13:04 PM
Rex - I added your site to my Destined for Gitmo blogroll.
Posted by: NTodd | Feb 25, 2005 6:08:33 PM
NTodd--
Thanks for Gitmo blogroll. We're honored and will return the gesture in kind.
RD & Dread Pirate Roberts - the Dharma Bums
Posted by: Rexroths Daughter | Feb 25, 2005 7:07:13 PM
Hmm, what's a blogger gotta do to get destined for Gitmo?
Posted by: Darryl Pearce | Feb 25, 2005 8:12:41 PM
Rex - thanks!
Darryl - uh...you just have to remind the idiot who forgot to blogroll you to blogroll you.
Posted by: NTodd | Feb 25, 2005 8:23:44 PM
...ha-Ha-HA. As of 18:53 Pacific time, "livejournal" is down.
Darn. And I was hoping the oligarchy of the internet, as begun by Fuming Mucker and the Revisionist, would take over!
...oh, well.
Posted by: Darryl Pearce | Feb 25, 2005 9:55:13 PM



